And Then Soseki Natsume is considered to be one of Japan s most beloved and respected authors And Then is ranked as one of his most insightful and stirring novels Daisuke the protagonist is a man in his twen

  • Title: And Then
  • Author: Sōseki Natsume Norma Moore Field
  • ISBN: 9784805311417
  • Page: 471
  • Format: Paperback
  • Soseki Natsume is considered to be one of Japan s most beloved and respected authors And Then is ranked as one of his most insightful and stirring novels.Daisuke, the protagonist, is a man in his twenties who is struggling with his personal purpose and identity as well as the changing social landscape of Meiji era Japan As Japan enters the Twentieth Century, ancient custSoseki Natsume is considered to be one of Japan s most beloved and respected authors And Then is ranked as one of his most insightful and stirring novels.Daisuke, the protagonist, is a man in his twenties who is struggling with his personal purpose and identity as well as the changing social landscape of Meiji era Japan As Japan enters the Twentieth Century, ancient customs give way to western ideals, and Daisuke works to resolve his feelings of disconnection and abandonment during this time of change Thanks to his father s wealth, Daisuke has the luxury of having time to develop his philosophies and ruminate on their meaning while remaining intellectually aloof from traditional Japanese culture and the demands of growing industrialization Then Daisuke s life takes an unexpected turn when he is reunited with his college friend and his sickly wife At first, Daisuke s stoicism allows him to act according to his intellect, but his intellectual fortress begins to show its vulnerabilities as his emotions start to hold greater sway over his inner life Daisuke must now weigh his choices in a culture that has always operated on the razor s edge of societal obligation and personal freedom A Japanese writer of genius Japan Quarterly

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    1. Sōseki Natsume Norma Moore Field

      Born Natsume Kinnosuke in Edo present day Tokyo.

    306 thoughts on “And Then”

    1. I’ll admit, I read this book as a person thoroughly out of time and out of context. I might even say, I read this book as a child of the 80s. The book introduces us to Daisuke, a well-educated thirty-year old who spends his days reading books, playing games of Go with his servant, and finding ways to shirk his responsibility to his family to marry a suitable girl who will help preserve the family’s fortune. And he does this all while mooching off his family’s money. As I read this book, I [...]

    2. Another story about the doomed love between two flawed people and how love doesn't save anyone in the endAnd the movie adaptation is simply unforgettable:Even the movie soundtrack (by Shigeru Umebayashi, English translation: Sorekara) is an art-form on itself: youtube/watch?v=dWNez

    3. It doesn't usually take me three weeks to read a 246-page book, but I read the first 20 pages of And Then at least five times, for days, never getting past p. 20, nothing entering my mind. I am a bad reader, often. Undedicated. Lazy. Nothing much happens in large swathes of this novel. There's a lot of flower-smelling. But I made myself continue. If I could make myself a higher quality reader, even if only by 0.0000000024 percent a year, it would be worth it. This is my goal with all reading, al [...]

    4. Anyone traveling in Japan has seen Natsume Soseki's face gracing the 1000 Yen bill. Americans are probably surprised to see that in Japan a writer rather than a political figure is given such an honor--if having one's face printed on "filthy lucre" can be considered an honor. I would list Soseki's "Kokoro" among the best "world" novels of the twentieth century, and "And Then" is not far behind. While it is yet one more "male alienation" novel, the alienation in this case is motivated by real, pr [...]

    5. This is also another novel by Soseki Natsume which, I think, his readers should not miss due to his unique style and plot. However, some newcomers might find it a bit boring in some chapters but we have no choice, just keep reading and we’d see how the story develops. While reading, we can’t help hoping the protagonist, Daisuke, could see the light or solution in terms of his decision to get married as well as his love to Michiyo, Hiraoka’s wife. In fact, this love triangle seems a bit com [...]

    6. This book is stunning -- stunningly beautiful and even shocking. It took me months to get through the first 150 pages or so (this edition is only 225 pages long) because so much of the 'action' of those pages takes place in Daisuke's head. Daisuke is a young man from a wealthy Japanese family who is, though approaching 30, still unmarried and still living off the allowance provided by his father. Pressured by his family (father, brother and sister-in-law) to find a profession and to take a wife, [...]

    7. Daisuke is a simultaneously admirable and despicable character. He has lofty ideals and yet has no means of backing it up; speaks in a superior method but has never had to earn through toil. In some way, I feel astounded by the heroic conclusions he comes to without ever having to learn anything. Even now, I am uncertain as to whether I can decide he is a heroic character or not. To me, I feel his final decision has made him grow completely and mature, but perhaps not enough to justify the madde [...]

    8. "Daisuke looked at his father's face blankly. He could not tell where the old man thought he had stabbed him.""Daisuke envied the men of old: though they were actually motivated by self-interest, the muddiness of their reasoning enabled them to weep, to feel, to agitate, all the while convinced that it was for the sake of others, and, in the end, to effect what they had originally desired."

    9. A tranquil, flowing, rather charming book centered on an idle character who has chosen to abstain from taking part in society and is living off a small rent given to him by his father. For much of the book, Daisuke's efforts are focused on escaping an arranged marriage and on thinking about his first love, who he helped marry his friend three years before: the book opens as the couple returns to Tōkyō. Daisuke is a likeable character: idle but dedicated, innocent but perceptive, shy but determ [...]

    10. Tenia muchas ganas de leer un libro por Soseki y creo que esta no fue mi mejor eleccion. Es un libro muy lento, con personajes insoportables (sobretodo Daisuke, el protagonista) y que no me atrapó nada. No lo recomendaría para empezar y no se si su obra se pone mejor.

    11. And Then (1909) by Natsume Soseki is one of a three novel considered a series that Haruki Murakami called among his favorites (the others are Sanshiro and The Gate). Like those other novels there is little that happens in the novel, but the inner lives of the characters are in tumult for various reasons-in this book it is because freeloading Daisuke, a spoiled son of a wealthy businessman, is in love with his best friend Hiraoka's wife Michiyo. Diasuke is both repellent and admirable, he looks d [...]

    12. Capital accumulation screws with efficient distribution; but perhaps the worst thing to be said about wealth is that it eventually makes the wealthy irrelevant (maybe that’s not a bad thing). Many Sōseki protagonists seem to suffer this kind of finance-induced dysfunction. Wealth is supposed to enable skule, but the wealthy just seek more wealth (after Hobbes), and those attached to the pipeline simply become idle (怠け者) waiting for the next remittance. They’re like teenagers begging a [...]

    13. L’inetto è l’(anti)eroe della letteratura primonovecentesca, figlio di un mondo esitante tra vecchio e nuovo, tra consolidate strutture arcaiche ed esaltazione della modernità, prigioniero della sua falsa coscienza e dello sguardo deformante degli altri. I grandi scrittori ne hanno dato interpretazioni personali e differenti, se non addirittura divergenti: basti pensare a quanto sono diversi tra loro Jean Floressas Des Esseintes, nella sua nevrosi di fare tutto controcorrente e contronatur [...]

    14. And Then is a work of art in my mind. There is such an ambiguity that rings throughout the book and in order to really "get it" you have to quieten down your mind and spirit to grasp the nuances of meaning within the story. Daisuke, our protagonist, appears to float between life and death through several channels; either through his concerns about his health and mind or symbolically through his decisions (and indecisions) and imaginations. For me reading this book is like narrowing down the soft [...]

    15. Absolutely incredible book. Shows Natsume Soseki at the peak of his powers. Felt like one of his famous books "about nothing," until you realize the ne'er-do-well son has a secret love. This book really affected me.

    16. A Japanese Faust and Werther in one, perfect fit for me. Quite similar to the equally amazing No Longer Human. My first japanese classic, starting a japanese-lit reading frenzy (=

    17. La sociedad contemporánea en la que vivía, en la que ningún ser humano podía mantener contacto con otro sin despreciarle, constituía lo que Daisuke llamaba la perversión del siglo XX.En 1909 Natsume Soseki publicaba la segunda parte de la trilogía con que exploraba las implicaciones del arribo traumático de la modernidad occidental a su país. Si en su predecesora, Sanshirō, se narraba el periplo emocional de un joven de provincias que al llegar a la Universidad de Tokio será testigo d [...]

    18. In his home country of Japan Soseki is one of the most highly-regarded and beloved of authors, a writer of great emotional and textural range. He's also one of my favorite Japanese writers. And Then forms the middle part of a loosely-linked trilogy that opens with Sanshiro and concludes with The Gate, though each novel can be read as a stand-alone. The central theme is the tension between obligations to one's own values and obligations to society. It follow's the mostly phycological journey of D [...]

    19. From the Afterword by translator Norma Moore Field: "The first, most obvious theme taken from his life is that of abandonment. Many Soseki characters are literally or figuratively abandoned children, who must therefore grapple with basic questions of identity. Another important theme is ambivalence, if not outright skepticism, toward modernity and Westernization. Soseki witnessed the melancholy effect the disruptions of the Restoration had on his family. He was also pulled backward in time by hi [...]

    20. "Modern society was nothing more than an aggregate of isolated individuals. The earth stretched boundlessly, but the instant houses were built upon it, it became fragmented. The people inside the houses became fragmented, too. Civilization took the collective we and transformed it into isolated individuals."A fantastic book about a difficult, self-isolated man, a loafer almost unable to make a single decision or to try to become self-sustaining, and what leads to him having to do both of those t [...]

    21. Nope. I just had to put a stop to it. I can't relate to a man who's 30 years old (my age apparently), living off his father's money, unemployed and refuses to find a wife no matter how important it is to his dad and family honour. To make matters worse, it's as if he's a little nutty in his head, being all philosophical and theological and different from others, like he's able to feel or think in a more unique way compared to other people. I'm not sure what but he sounds like a mental patient to [...]

    22. The trilogy by Soseki is a must read for any youth who is about to enter the real work. Sanshiro, Mon and Sore Kara shall remain my Soseki favourites. Portrays the journey of a youth born in a family in the edo era but raised in the modern meiji era. The stories beautifully portray the conflict the youth goes through. Something that I can deeply relate to :)

    23. Following on from Sanshirō and preceding The Gate, And Then continues Natsume Sōseki's explorations of the conflict between our outer persona and our innermost thoughts and ideals. And Then follows Daisuke, a young man struggling with his personal purpose and identity as well as the changing social landscape of Meiji-era Japan. He has never had to work thanks to his father's generosity and so has had ample time to develop his philosophies while remaining distant from traditional Japanese cultu [...]

    24. This book took me ages to finish. It's about a man who seems initially overcome by ennui, and it gave me a terrible case of it. The book is loosely related to Sanshiro, my favourite Soseki novel, as the middle part of an informal trilogy. The connection isn't at all obvious for the first half of the book. Daisuke is the younger son of a wealthy family, and a man of leisure, not at all like the provincial Sanshiro sent to university in Tokyo. Daisuke's fretting over his place in the world at firs [...]

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